Mars animal testing

[raine]

Because of the Huntingdon lab coming to my knowledge, I have been looking at Petas website. Im horrified that Mars are paying for animal experiments to determine the effects of chocolate. This is disgraceful as we are promoting buying chocolate instead of a bunnies. I have purchased chocolate easter eggs by this company and now I find this out:roll:

Mars UK produces Bounty, Galaxy, Celebrations, M&M's, Mars, Snickers, Twix, Topic, Milky Way, Tracker, Revels, Starburst and Skittles as well as Tunes and Lockets.

http://getactive.peta.org/campaign/marsuk07

Can you send the email to the CEO of Mars on the above link?

[The Duchess]

Done!

I had no idea but will be telling everyone and will not be buying any more of their products thats for sure.

Thanks for letting us all know.

Helen

[donnamt]

it was posted on here a few months ago.. i havent had a twix since and they was my fav.... strange how i dont miss them at all :evil:

[drpengie]

I'm just sat her troughing a bar of galaxy - it's put me right off. This is awful. Surely they should be testing it on humans - and we all know the result already. Too much chocolate makes you fat.

Why oh why do we need to test animals to tell us this?

[The Duchess]

it was posted on here a few months ago.. i havent had a twix since and they was my fav.... strange how i dont miss them at all :evil:

Just in case you want to try a Twix-a-like go to your nearest Lidl as their own brand are just as good. Only problem is that you have to buy a pack of 8 twin packs! Doh....

[Lauralou]

didn't they recently change their ingredients aswell so they could be suitable for vegetarians?! a bit hypocritical!

[donnamt]

Just in case you want to try a Twix-a-like go to your nearest Lidl as their own brand are just as good. Only problem is that you have to buy a pack of 8 twin packs! Doh....

hahahaha wouldnt that be terrible huh

i cant even eat soddin pringles thanx to proctor an gamble bein such evil :censored::censored:

is there a pringle alike sold??? i do miss them

[The Duchess]

hahahaha wouldnt that be terrible huh

i cant even eat soddin pringles thanx to proctor an gamble bein such evil :censored::censored:

is there a pringle alike sold??? i do miss them

Both Lidl and Aldi have lots of '-alikes' and often they are just as good if not better than the original big brands. Just steer clear of the baked beans though - they're rubbish.

[Denny]

tunes and lockets:shock: looking at the list, most of those are made by Nestle aren't they? which I dont touch anyway, are there any cadbury chocolate bars that are on the list for testing?

[raine]

I didn't see the thread a couple of months ago, sorry for hijacking your thread Romy (just found it on a search). It won't hurt to run it again, as its Easter and I have bought Easter Eggs by this company as I missed it.

I guess the problem you may have with supermarket's own food, is that they could be getting Mars to make them for them and you will need to clarify this.

[The Duchess]

I guess the problem you may have with supermarket's own food, is that they could be getting Mars to make them for them and you will need to clarify this.

This is true - I am hoping that as Lidl and Aldi are in the Naturewatch Compassionate Shopping booklet, that it's more likely that their foodstuffs have the same ethical background. Not so sure about Sainsbo's or similar.

[rabshan]

I have recently developed an allegy to CHOCLATE:shock::cry:so wont be eating any:cry:every cloud has a silver lining so they say:roll:;)
If you check out Animal Aid,s website they sell choclates without cruelty:)

[Suzanne]

That's terrible and completely unnecessary. Everyone knows the effects of too much chocolate. Signed and forwarded.

[donnamt]

This is true - I am hoping that as Lidl and Aldi are in the Naturewatch Compassionate Shopping booklet, that it's more likely that their foodstuffs have the same ethical background. Not so sure about Sainsbo's or similar.

the booklet only lists the household and domestic stuff.. but Aldi is deffo on the tick list so i assume thier own brand food comes from non animal testing sources

lidl has crosses :(

[vengeful.veggie]

I knew about Mars a long time ago. They are also the makers of pet food such as Pedigree as well as other foods like Dolmio and Uncle Ben's. You just have to check the packet to see if it's made by Mars/Masterfoods.

I use absolutely nothing that's tested on animals :)

[donnamt]

I knew about Mars a long time ago. They are also the makers of pet food such as Pedigree as well as other foods like Dolmio and Uncle Ben's. You just have to check the packet to see if it's made by Mars/Masterfoods.

I use absolutely nothing that's tested on animals :)

im getting there, i found that knorr was owned by unilever which shocked me into looking at food labels too :(

[raine]

Its such a stupid experiment. Im just shocked because its the last thing you expect from a chocolate company and I had no idea, hence I bought their easter eggs

[The Duchess]

lidl has crosses :(

Oops.

Well then it's just as well I have just been out and bought some BUAV approved stuff this afternoon to clean the house with. Shall have to be more careful in future.

[losing-the-plot]

Mars / masterfoods - Pedigree, Whiskas, Kitekat, Catsan, Cesar, Sheba, Trill bird food, Aquarian Fish food and have recently bought out james wellbeloved and Royal Canin (A rumour iv heard, couldnt guarantee it to be true tho!)

Nestle / Purina - Bakers, Beta, Pro Plan, Purina One, Go Cat, Felix, Bonio, Winalot, Gourmet cat food

Proctor and Gamble - Iams, Eukanuba

ones to avoid!

[raine]

Still looking at my Mars Easter eggs:(

[donnamt]

Mars / masterfoods - Pedigree, Whiskas, Kitekat, Catsan, Cesar, Sheba, Trill bird food, Aquarian Fish food and have recently bought out james wellbeloved and Royal Canin (A rumour iv heard, couldnt guarantee it to be true tho!)

Nestle / Purina - Bakers, Beta, Pro Plan, Purina One, Go Cat, Felix, Bonio, Winalot, Gourmet cat food

Proctor and Gamble - Iams, Eukanuba

ones to avoid!

oh fook i get bakers for ralph :shock::shock::shock: ill have to shop online for his food now then

[Siona]

Signed and done :)

I knew about the animal foods, it's disgusting! :censored:
P@H do own brand foods which are ok I think :)

[oscarbunny]

I dont buy Mars products due to the fact that they are owned by masterfoods, and they make pedigree which is tested on dogs... cruel experiments.

I agree its pretty F***ed up.

[mindymoo]

After reading the topic on Peta website I do have to ask...

How many people eat chocolate then go for a swim in a pool of paint and water???

What idiot sits and dreams these pathetic tests up and how do they sleep at night??

[donnamt]

After reading the topic on Peta website I do have to ask...

How many people eat chocolate then go for a swim in a pool of paint and water???

What idiot sits and dreams these pathetic tests up and how do they sleep at night??

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: i cant bear to read or watch what they do.. i only need the names of who to avoid... i still see the geese getting forcefed for a :censored: pate and i saw that years ago :cry::cry::cry::cry:

[donnamt]

ive just found a couple of links on the uncaged website for non animal tested dog food....ill murder the little sod if he turns his nose up at it.... lot more expensive than bakers.... a clean soul is costing me a fortune :shock:

[bluebunny]

ive just found a couple of links on the uncaged website for non animal tested dog food....ill murder the little sod if he turns his nose up at it.... lot more expensive than bakers.... a clean soul is costing me a fortune :shock:

Mine have burns they love it! Before that they were on arden grange neither tests on animals
:D

[oscarbunny]

Mine eat Burns they love the chicken variety but are not keen on the fish for some reason

[donnamt]

ive ordered 3 lots.... trophy pero and arden grange BB mommy has offered a sample of burns so ill just have to wait and see what mr choosy goes for.... not buying pedigree or bakers again :evil::evil::evil:

i made the mistake of reading the peta website about how the staff at iams treat the animals... how do they get so cold :cry::cry::cry:

[Kittykat23uk]

Anyone know whether Lint, Toblerone, cadbury/Green and black and Siansburys taste the difference chocolate are animal tested?

[donnamt]

i found this

http://www.ethical-company-organisation.org/GSGSampleChapter.pdf

its so hard to get a straight answer on the net... the main names keep coming up for animal testing and they dont include the ones youve listed :D

looks like ill be buying green and blacks from now on :D

[Poppymum]

Guys,

I dont want to burst anyones bubble, but most things are tested on animals. Even the chemicals they spray on fruit and veg will have been tested at some point.
Truth is, it is very hard to find stuff that hasnt been tested on. I used to work for a microfiche company, that processed SC Johnson, Lever Brothers etc and all the same.

It is very hard to find stuff that isnt tested, personally I try to use natural cleaners (How clean is your house has some great household cleaning tips) and where I can, I buy organic.

ETA: Pedigree, Pero, Bakers etc arent good foods for dogs (nor the cat versions) they arent real meat, they are meat and animal derviatves (feet guts, heads claws, undeveloped eggs, hair, plus lots of cereals and colours)

[The Duchess]

Truth is, it is very hard to find stuff that hasnt been tested on. I used to work for a microfiche company, that processed SC Johnson, Lever Brothers etc and all the same.

It is hard, but I feel personally that it's worth the effort.

In particular, I do not wish to support massive companies or conglomerates that go around buying up all of the smaller 'competition' and forcing prices of their supplies and wages down, especially if they do condone animal tested ingredients. How many companies have been forced out of business by the likes of Tesco etc. How many larger companies buy from sweat shops in the far east where the child labour is age anything from 5-8, how many companies use what amounts to slave labour to produce trainers (companies like Nike for example)) and to pick coffee, where the picker only gets a few pennies for a days work.

This is a great sacrifice for many as it means giving up so very many products that we fall in love with - like our favourite perfume, our favourite face cream etc.

I might still make the odd purchasing mistake but I am trying my hardest to be ethical.

[Poppymum]

I admit, that I do try the best I can to be ethical. But I need to buy Metacam, thats tested on animals, I need to vaccinate all my animals, they are tested.

I sacrfice a lot too, but there comes a point where you physically cant avoid it..Headache tabs, Printer ink, the list is endless.

I dont use Tesco or any supermarket at all, im lucky enough to live near a fab farm shop and I have an organic veg box delivered

[The Duchess]

I admit, that I do try the best I can to be ethical. But I need to buy Metacam, thats tested on animals, I need to vaccinate all my animals, they are tested.


This is a real problem isn't it - why test on animals to treat animals? I believe that Intervet test so where does that leave us if we are that rigid. Also, back to the question of feeding dogs and cats is it right to kill one animal to feed another.

It is never ending but we can all just do our best and what we are comfortable with.

I wish I had a great farm shop close enough. We have some great ones but they are quite a long way away so then you have to think about the fuel and all of that.......Doh!:)

[Poppymum]

The argument as to whether you should kill to feed a dog or cat, imo is yes as long as the feed animal was raised and slaughtered humanely.

If you are vegetarian/vegan, a lot of Soya is GM, and grown on the other side of the world, so food miles and cardon footprints come into it, same a with a lot of fruit and veg, its imported..why!??

Probably not the case with most that ends up in dog meat, precisely why I feed both mine an organic raw diet. I know where the food has come from and what is going into them.

If I didnt run a dog walking/home boarding/ day care centre then I probs would vaccinate yearly, but I also show my rough collie..so have no choice really.

Frustrating that these huge co' shave so much control over what we do, and what we buy

Sorry to go off topic:oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

[donnamt]

Guys,

I dont want to burst anyones bubble, but most things are tested on animals. Even the chemicals they spray on fruit and veg will have been tested at some point.
Truth is, it is very hard to find stuff that hasnt been tested on. I used to work for a microfiche company, that processed SC Johnson, Lever Brothers etc and all the same.

It is very hard to find stuff that isnt tested, personally I try to use natural cleaners (How clean is your house has some great household cleaning tips) and where I can, I buy organic.

ETA: Pedigree, Pero, Bakers etc arent good foods for dogs (nor the cat versions) they arent real meat, they are meat and animal derviatves (feet guts, heads claws, undeveloped eggs, hair, plus lots of cereals and colours)


its ok hun my bubble of ignorance was burst in January.. since then its been one more nightmare fact found after another.. id quite happily disown fellow people and become a hermit on an uncivilised island... but i cant so ill just muddle on reading labels and avoiding the stuff i know to be bad as and when i discover it :cry::cry:

[raine]

I came to all this late in life and if I can buy some products that do not compensate companies that I disapprove of, then I feel Im make a difference. Im also helping my own health. I now only use shampoos/conditioners that do not contain parabens as well as not tested on animals.Parabens are believed to be carcinogenic and in nearly everything we use cosmetically.

I agree that the medication I use for my sons asthma, will have no doubt been tested on animals in the past. Thats why I support Dr. Hadwen Trust who fund alternative research into asthma that does not involve animals.

I do not know where the rest of my food comes from and thats why I am doing more research on this front, hence my shock about Mars. I buy all my cleaners from Astonish and the Co-op because they are non tested on animals.

I am not vegetarian and any meat I eat is organic and free range, but Im personally questioning this part of my life.

[The Duchess]

I do not know where the rest of my food comes from and thats why I am doing more research on this front, hence my shock about Mars. I buy all my cleaners from Astonish and the Co-op because they are non tested on animals.

Raine, if you ever come across anything else that the rest of us might not know whilst you do your research, you will let us know won't you.

At least with more knowledge we can make informed choices.

Helen

[jane28]

Dont get me started on PETA...
http://petakillsanimals.com/

PETA is a one stop shop when it comes to animal rights... They have almost 100s of different fingers in each pie... "spreading yourself to thinly" srpings to mind! FUr trade, horse meat, chinas dog and cat trade, transportation, vivesection, seal slaughter...etc... A company who has this many causes cannot devote everything to them equally in my opinion...
Having rabbits i try and buy things that are not tested on animals but it is very difficult sometimes and on some occasions i have kept on buying certain products because they are the only ones that work for me...
And i am hypocritical also because i used to have a lurcher and she used to hunt wild rabbits for population control...:oops: My next lurcher will do the same though... And i love my pet bunnies!

Back onto the MARS subject :D im not a keen mars eater BUT how do we know where the milk that goes into the chocolate comes from in the first place? My guess is from intensive farmed animals bred and bred and bred, kept in confinement, eating GM foods which makes the milk so cheap to buy... MARS is in it for the money after all... So to be honest we have all been eating chocolate that arrives out of the misery of animals before all this animal testing became knowledge...!!
We could all go mad thinking about where every little thing comes from...

We cant always beat ourselves up about doing the right thing because sometimes the right thing isn't acheiveable to the standards we want to live by...
I tried being vegetarian but being half german and being raised on meat and cheese :lol: i cannot go without meat... My meat is local and from a butchers though and the cheese is also. i am getting chickens soon so that counters the egg problem and also starting my own veggie patch. I also use LUSH products for myself but i do get my perfume and cosmetics from Boots due to my skin... I use Simple products for my face also and i recycyle. This has covered most of my day to day life but i went through a point where trying to live my life strictly this and strictly that was detremental. I then decided to just do my best...

[rspcarabbits]

Both Lidl and Aldi have lots of '-alikes' and often they are just as good if not better than the original big brands. Just steer clear of the baked beans though - they're rubbish.

Have to disagree with you on aldi baked beans and so do a lot of top chefs. In a blind taste test with top chefs some time back , they came out top....nowhere near as salty or sweet as the main brands.

This perhaps should be in the general chat so just to make it "legal"....Aldi and Lidl did not sell real rabbits this easter(or any easter for that matter).....hows that?:lol:

[raine]

"how do we know where the milk that goes into the chocolate comes from in the first place?"

I agree, if we eat any chocolate, you do have to question about the milk. I haven't gone that in depth and, for me, if there is one chocolate company who are currently undertaking animals tests, then I would prefer to know about it and buy one that isn't.

Im sure it is hard for PETA and they would prefer not to be involved in so many causes, but man has its finger in so many disgusting pots. Without looking at the PETA website, I would have been ignorantly scoffing MARS. I will have a look at the website you have highlighted.

[jane28]

I completely agree... PETA face highlights a hell of a lot of horrific treatment and things we didnt know which it is appreciated for.
I even went for a job at PETA once!

I still dont think PETA has highlighted the horrific treatment (talking hanging, strangulation at the end of hunting season) of Spanish hunting dogs (Galgos) or the British Greyhound Boards lack of major concern about The 15,000 odd greyhounds that "disappear" each year at the age of 3years when they have finished their racing career.
I think it is to do with the "cause of the moment" process they have which can get pushed aside when a new one comes up which bugs me most...

My question is what on earth are Mars looking for? Surely we know the effects of chocolate? Too much makes you fat and too little makes you grumpy!
Still a member of greenpeace though!:lol:

[Sarah86]

:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: i cant bear to read or watch what they do.. i only need the names of who to avoid... i still see the geese getting forcefed for a :censored: pate and i saw that years ago :cry::cry::cry::cry:

That makes me see red when I go to a restaurant and see that evil **** on the menu its foie gras- there is a more humane alternative but according to toff's it doesn't taste quite the same.