Discusting!!! Warning: images of face transplant on rabbit

[Becki xX]

Just come across this...http://health.howstuffworks.com/face-transplant.htm Thought it was a photoshop job ‘til I clicked link :cry: Truly discusting world we live in :evil: X

[heidilovescows]

That is horrible :cry:

[RusselRocky]

Sickos... Is it really real? I saw the photo and couldnt bear to read it!! :cry::evil:

[Becki xX]

Sickos... Is it really real? I saw the photo and couldnt bear to read it!! :cry::evil:

So it seems...:evil: I couldnt read the article either :cry:

Chinese surgeons practiced face transplants on rabbits before moving on to humans. See more surgery images.

[Thea & Bobbin]

:shock:

:cry: :cry: :cry:

I am sure that there are plenty of people in the world with such horrific injuries that they would gladly be a guinea pig for such procedures. What is the point in using helpless animals?? I hate to think what happened to the white bun :cry:

[unalakey]

:cry::evil: Poor little rabbit:cry:

[Pringle]

That is sick! :evil::censored: WHAT?!

[Victoria39]

:censored::censored::censored::censored::censored:

Couldn't bear to read it either:censored.

[Toni H]

:cry::cry::cry::cry:

I left physically sick after looking at that......Like Thea said, what about the por little white bunny..............:cry::cry:

[Siona]

I can't even bear to follow the link and look. I know it will just upset me and play on my mind, and the worst thing is that we can't even do anything about it!

China and Taiwan don't look at animals like we do, the things they do in the name of food, medicine and science make me sick - and that's before I even think about the fur trade....

I've been dragged out of shops and away from market stalls by my friends before I got violent lots of times :evil: I just can't hold my temper down where that's concerned!!!! :censored::censored::censored:

[IzzyTwig]

Without animal experimentation we wouldn't have even half of the medical knowledge and life saving procedures we have today. At least it's not for cosmetics.

[Thea & Bobbin]

Without animal experimentation we wouldn't have even half of the medical knowledge and life saving procedures we have today. At least it's not for cosmetics.

I may be wrong here, but isn't face transplantation cosmetic?

[Indiechic]

that is aful x

[norrielian]

OMG, I couldn't read it either, it really is a shocking picture :cry:

[davies67]

I find that quite incredible how it has a working ear still, bit sad it was done in china as from what iv heard they arent as bothered about the animals as over here, but im sure it was put down properly after at least

[Diddeen]

There arent any other photos of the rabbit surgery, all the other pages are about humans who've had face transplants following horrific injuries.

[Teepee]

Without animal experimentation we wouldn't have even half of the medical knowledge and life saving procedures we have today. At least it's not for cosmetics.

This is indeed true IzzyTwig, but I sort of feel that JUST because something worked a particular way on an animal does not give a 100% assurance the same would be true on a human. I am thinking that sooner or later, the first human who has anything done (only tested on animals to date) must feel more than a little nervous! *But please don't shoot me - I wholey understand where you're coming from.*

As far as this surgery goes, I don't think I'd be too pleased in putting myself forward into the hands of a surgeon who had "practised on rabbits"...I would suspect that a rabbit's fur would hide the majority of scarring for a start!:shock:

TP;)

[Siona]

Without animal experimentation we wouldn't have even half of the medical knowledge and life saving procedures we have today. At least it's not for cosmetics.

It is scientific fact that human and animal physiology are totally different and many of the 'treatments' are incompatible with human subjects. Moreover, the average drug or procedure will cost up to 150,000 lives before it becomes legal - specifically because of the difficulty of adapting from one species to another.

During their short life spans, the rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, rats, dogs, pigs and monkeys undergo many painful procedures- often without anasthetic because they don't want to influence results. THey are kept in cramped and overcrowded conditions and offered no enrichment, only to be disposed of en masse when finished with. Most of the time they are not even euthanised, but gassed or electrocuted.

In today's world of advances, there are many many ways to find answers without using animals. Stem cell propogation and computer modelling are just two of these ways, and that's before you go into the realms of using human volunteers or criminals.

Because these facts are difficult to deal with many people dismiss it as untrue, and say 'but there are laws against cruelty'. The pure fact however is that companies and conglomerates have their own rules, are not properly regulated and use loopholes to excuse themselves. We rely on people like the RSPCA to be the protectors, but they can't do everything.

I will never agree to the use of animals for science.

[Becki xX]

It is scientific fact that human and animal physiology are totally different and many of the 'treatments' are incompatible with human subjects. Moreover, the average drug or procedure will cost up to 150,000 lives before it becomes legal - specifically because of the difficulty of adapting from one species to another.

During their short life spans, the rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, rats, dogs, pigs and monkeys undergo many painful procedures- often without anasthetic because they don't want to influence results. THey are kept in cramped and overcrowded conditions and offered no enrichment, only to be disposed of en masse when finished with. Most of the time they are not even euthanised, but gassed or electrocuted.

In today's world of advances, there are many many ways to find answers without using animals. Stem cell propogation and computer modelling are just two of these ways, and that's before you go into the realms of using human volunteers or criminals.

Because these facts are difficult to deal with many people dismiss it as untrue, and say 'but there are laws against cruelty'. The pure fact however is that companies and conglomerates have their own rules, are not properly regulated and use loopholes to excuse themselves. We rely on people like the RSPCA to be the protectors, but they can't do everything.

I will never agree to the use of animals for science.


Agree 110% X

[VickyF]

It is scientific fact that human and animal physiology are totally different and many of the 'treatments' are incompatible with human subjects. Moreover, the average drug or procedure will cost up to 150,000 lives before it becomes legal - specifically because of the difficulty of adapting from one species to another.

During their short life spans, the rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, rats, dogs, pigs and monkeys undergo many painful procedures- often without anasthetic because they don't want to influence results. THey are kept in cramped and overcrowded conditions and offered no enrichment, only to be disposed of en masse when finished with. Most of the time they are not even euthanised, but gassed or electrocuted.

In today's world of advances, there are many many ways to find answers without using animals. Stem cell propogation and computer modelling are just two of these ways, and that's before you go into the realms of using human volunteers or criminals.

Because these facts are difficult to deal with many people dismiss it as untrue, and say 'but there are laws against cruelty'. The pure fact however is that companies and conglomerates have their own rules, are not properly regulated and use loopholes to excuse themselves. We rely on people like the RSPCA to be the protectors, but they can't do everything.

I will never agree to the use of animals for science.

You took the words right out of my mouth (and probably worded it far better too).

The only thing I would add is that yes, animal testing may have played a part to get us to this level scientifically but that doesn't mean it was the best route or that there aren't better, more scientifically sound and more ethical alternatives. What's done can't be undone but surely we're at a point where the world of science can start using a bit of common sense and end vivisection for good.

That picture sickened me and they can't even use the excuse "it's to save lives" because a face lift is cosmetic and therefore in my eyes they can't even try to justify torturing an animal to do it.

[Wabbit]

It is scientific fact that human and animal physiology are totally different and many of the 'treatments' are incompatible with human subjects. Moreover, the average drug or procedure will cost up to 150,000 lives before it becomes legal - specifically because of the difficulty of adapting from one species to another.

During their short life spans, the rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, rats, dogs, pigs and monkeys undergo many painful procedures- often without anasthetic because they don't want to influence results. THey are kept in cramped and overcrowded conditions and offered no enrichment, only to be disposed of en masse when finished with. Most of the time they are not even euthanised, but gassed or electrocuted.

In today's world of advances, there are many many ways to find answers without using animals. Stem cell propogation and computer modelling are just two of these ways, and that's before you go into the realms of using human volunteers or criminals.

Because these facts are difficult to deal with many people dismiss it as untrue, and say 'but there are laws against cruelty'. The pure fact however is that companies and conglomerates have their own rules, are not properly regulated and use loopholes to excuse themselves. We rely on people like the RSPCA to be the protectors, but they can't do everything.

I will never agree to the use of animals for science.

Very well said :thumb: I agree totally!

Jenny

[Jack-Bun]

Sick, Sick, Sick, Sick Discusting People

[Fifibutton]

Well said Siona, my thoughts exactly. Animal experimentation is medieval. We can culture human tissue these days. It would yield more accurate results and cause no pain to a living thing whatsoever.

Btw I love your sig bunnie.

[Char-x]

Well if anything ever happens to me...I won't be getting one of these, I don't agree at all with animal testing, it's so sick. :evil:

[Alex!]

animal testing is sick and wrong!!!!!!!!!
:evil: :censored: :evil:

[Butterbean and Tony]

OMG that is the most awful :censored::censored::censored: they just do not need to do things like that they are such :censored::censored::censored: those poor rabbits it looks sooo unhappy :cry::cry::cry:

[billysmom]

:evil::evil::censored::censored::censored::censore d::evil::evil::evil:
TOTALLY EVIL...:evil::evil::evil:

[toffeeapple]

Animal Testing is wrong and i completely disagree with it.
We're so selfish. What does that rabbit think? feel? And what about the poor white bunny? I hope they just swapped or i hope the other one died of natural causes so it didnt have to put up with as much pain as the other one did.

GRRRRRRRRRRR... :censored:

Okay, so i was born into this world and all of a sudden im injected with all this stuff, kept in crampt compartments, feel ill, sick, pain..
IS THIS FAIR? THEY DIDN'T CHOSE TO f*****g BE THERE!!!!!

[AllForTheAnimals]

OMG!!!!!!!! I wish I could stab a billion or more holes in all the people who do this to the animals:censored::evil::cry: Why not use people I mean look at what alot of people are doing to themselfs by choice drugs, surgery (like transplants or plastic surgery) I mean what the flip do people think animals are toys?:!: I hope all the bunnys used for labratory use are safley sent to heaven :angel:

[sdf76]

I don't think I want to look at it as I feel ill just reading the threads on here.

Animal experimentation is wrong not only because of the unnecessary suffering to the poor animals but alsobecause the scientific conclusions are unsound. If you fed a bar of chocolate to a dog or rabbit they would become seriously ill and likely die, conversley many rabbits have the vhd vaccine which, if injected into a human, would make them seriously ill.

I would normally send a letter of complaint but I don't think a Chinese animal experimentation lab is really likely to take any notice..so what can you do?-Sue

[twinks22]

WHAT! how is that allowed its sick! bunch of :censored: sicko's:evil::evil::evil:

[Scooner]

It is scientific fact that human and animal physiology are totally different and many of the 'treatments' are incompatible with human subjects. Moreover, the average drug or procedure will cost up to 150,000 lives before it becomes legal - specifically because of the difficulty of adapting from one species to another.

During their short life spans, the rabbits, guinea pigs, mice, rats, dogs, pigs and monkeys undergo many painful procedures- often without anasthetic because they don't want to influence results. THey are kept in cramped and overcrowded conditions and offered no enrichment, only to be disposed of en masse when finished with. Most of the time they are not even euthanised, but gassed or electrocuted.

In today's world of advances, there are many many ways to find answers without using animals. Stem cell propogation and computer modelling are just two of these ways, and that's before you go into the realms of using human volunteers or criminals.

Because these facts are difficult to deal with many people dismiss it as untrue, and say 'but there are laws against cruelty'. The pure fact however is that companies and conglomerates have their own rules, are not properly regulated and use loopholes to excuse themselves. We rely on people like the RSPCA to be the protectors, but they can't do everything.

I will never agree to the use of animals for science.

Very well said!

I find that sometimes i conflict with myself because i want to care for animals but, i eat meat and i benefit from the medical advancements we have at our disposal. However, i only eat free range organic food, and i think there are far better ways to carry out medical research.

I have a choice over what i eat and where it comes from. Although some people may disagree with me eating meat and say this isn't enough, i think it's a natural part of my diet (not rabbit i hasten to add!) We have no choice over where our medical advancements come from! It really makes me feel ill to think about the unnecessary pain these animals are put through!

And am i being a hypocrite because I'll eat chicken, cow and pig but not rabbits, dogs or horse because i like to keep them as companions? It's tough knowing what's right sometimes.

All i know for sure is i wont wear fur, eat an animal that was kept in a small cage or agree to animal testing!

[animal ry]

poor bunny :cry:

[Lillian]

:shock::shock::shock: Thats just weird!

[Tempest]

I couldn't bring myself to follow the link either, I agree 100% with what people are saying here. Surely they must know they results are unreliable, so why did they do it in the first place?! Was it some sick curiosity? I know they view animals differently, but I don't understand how you can put an animal through something so awful when you know it feels pain?

[PrincessPeaches24]

i clicked the link, and started reading the thread as it loaded. i had to close it before it was finished loading. reading it is enough.. i dont want to see it.
:( how can people who do that sleep at night, when there is a much better way to do things, and without this. :(

[marvy]

I did not look, as I can only imagine! and the true image is not something I want to see. I remember years ago watching something on t.v. regarding pigs! It stayed with me. On a lighter note, my bunny Rosie is not what you would call cute by 'bunny cute' meter! But I love her regardless! :love:

[donstapley]

yes animal testing is wrong......something were all agreed on. but its something that isn't going to cease anytime soon. They way that look at it is 1) testing on animals or 2) testing on humans. unfortunatley that see animals as the lesser species. We all know what happened when they tested drugs on humans a couple of years back.....some died..lost various bodily functions, etc and they were all in their early 20's. This doesn't mean that im condoning testing on animals in ANY way but unfornately it's not safe to test on humans either. The question is how are we supposed to advance medically when people are still so adament on testing on living things....surely there is another viable way to test but on already deceased animals or humans?

[SOAD]

yes animal testing is wrong......something were all agreed on. but its something that isn't going to cease anytime soon. They way that look at it is 1) testing on animals or 2) testing on humans. unfortunatley that see animals as the lesser species. We all know what happened when they tested drugs on humans a couple of years back.....some died..lost various bodily functions, etc and they were all in their early 20's. This doesn't mean that im condoning testing on animals in ANY way but unfornately it's not safe to test on humans either. The question is how are we supposed to advance medically when people are still so adament on testing on living things....surely there is another viable way to test but on already deceased animals or humans?

Actually those drugs were tested on animals prior to the human drug trials, they weren't just tested on the people first.

[jakies13]

that is so sick
poor little bunnies:cry:
they should use people for experiments instead of using defenceless animals.
at least humans can choose to take part or not:censored:

[Rabbit_Freak95]

that is so nasty!! those people need to stop doing that. I wanted to puke!! NASTY PEOPLE! :censored: :censored: that is so wrong. animals for science is so wrong on many different levels!!!!! :censored: :shock: