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sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 07:56 PM
:wave:

Just got back from the vets with Trip and Scarlett, she had her myxi jab first and just as he did Trips I said oh you do the 10% intradermally and he said no its not done like that any more :? It is isnt it? It was last September :( Then he said oh we dont do the VHD like that anymore either, I wasnt aware VHD was ever done like that and my buns never had it like that :?

I cant believe I didnt ask first and or notice :cry: How long until I can take them back for the jab again because they wont be protected from this one will they :(

foxyfaerie
07-03-2008, 07:59 PM
As far as I'm aware they only need the 10%; not the whole thing again.

Your vet - or a bunny savy vet in this case - needs to contact the manufacturers I think & they can tell the vet when to administer the 10%.

sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
My bunny savvy vet is not there and I only know one :( Im taking Beau in Monday for his so I will ask them, I thought they had the whole vaccination with the 10% administered intradermally from advice given on here so they have always had that.

Thanks x

donnamt
07-03-2008, 08:09 PM
our vet deffo still did the 10% thing this week... you dont think yours was covering for not knowing about it do you ???

louandjoe
07-03-2008, 08:10 PM
Ours did the 10% thing with our 6 yesterday.

maisydaisystar
07-03-2008, 08:12 PM
now i am worrying, I also said this on another thread that my vet did not do this last week with Tilly, and my last bunny (several years ago now) never had it done like this either.Does this mean shes not protected????

sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 08:22 PM
Yes I believe Trip and Scarlett are not covered by this, I need to know how long I have to wait to bring them back to have it again :( Mine have always had it this way up until today.

Its the first time I have seen this vet and with all the questions and advice he was giving he sounded like he really knew what he was on about until I mentioned this :roll: I should have asked first and then said no I dont want the vacs done that way :(

Also he did seem to know about it, just said it wasnt done anymore. I didnt even finish my sentence and he started talking about it so it didnt sound like he was making an excuse for not knowing, I think he is just wrong or been given incorrect information :?

Deelove
07-03-2008, 08:29 PM
I would raise it with the 'head vet' it's not fair if they've done it wrong for you to have to pay to have it done twice.

maisydaisystar
07-03-2008, 08:32 PM
I would raise it with the 'head vet' it's not fair if they've done it wrong for you to have to pay to have it done twice.

I think I'd better querey it at my vets too, The vet who did tillys vaccination was the owner vet of the practice, it's really annoying isn't it

sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 08:35 PM
I think I am going to have to pay for it again :( I was charged 170 for Scarletts spay when Buu had only cost 130 the week before and they had charged me for keeping her in overnight even though it was their :censored: up that she couldnt come home as they told me to phone at a certain time to arrange to go as they were short staffed and then didnt answer even though I was ringing every two minutes for about 2 hours, then when I finally got through on the emergency number was told I couldnt come get her because its not an emergency :roll: :? And they wouldnt refund me :roll:

donnamt
07-03-2008, 08:43 PM
what happens if its not administered right? there must be some protection or is it totally ineffective?

lisa82
07-03-2008, 08:47 PM
I don't know what the current practice is, but as studies are being carried out all the time, practices do change. Hopefully someone can clarify as mine have their myxi in a few weeks. It could be that he's really up on the current research, or as you say, covering himself :? Although maybe someone would have posted about it if things had changed?

maisydaisystar
07-03-2008, 08:52 PM
Yes can anyone tell us if our rabbits are still protected if the injection was given in the scruff of the neck only??????

sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 09:09 PM
I dont know if they are still protected, just assuming they arent because they must have been doing the 10% thing for a reason? x

Neil-and-Maria
07-03-2008, 09:14 PM
I would assume they are still protected as they do give 90% of the vaccine this way. I think the 10% just makes it more effective.

Maria x

sillyrabbit
07-03-2008, 09:21 PM
I would assume they are still protected as they do give 90% of the vaccine this way. I think the 10% just makes it more effective.

Maria x

Thanks hun, I was worried then for a minute! I will ask to speak to another vet on Monday :D x

maisydaisystar
08-03-2008, 12:14 PM
I have emailed my vet to query Tillys protection, as she was only given it in the scruff.

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 12:15 PM
I have emailed my vet to query Tillys protection, as she was only given it in the scruff.

Cool let me know what they say :D And I will let you know what I am told on Monday x

Phoebesmummy9
08-03-2008, 12:29 PM
I have emailed my vet to query Tillys protection, as she was only given it in the scruff.

Phoebe had his last nite, and he had part of it in the back of his ear and the rest in the scruff on his neck! My vets are pretty rabbit savvy and deal with alot of buns so i trust them 110%

Sooz
08-03-2008, 12:33 PM
The VHD has always been given SC and the myxi always and still 10% intradermally.

The 10% can be given again but not the whole injection.

Sooz
08-03-2008, 12:35 PM
I dont know if they are still protected, just assuming they arent because they must have been doing the 10% thing for a reason? x

Yes. The virus first developes in the skin so intradermal vaccination gives the best defence.

honeybunny
08-03-2008, 12:35 PM
If the injection is given all in one place with no amount going into the skin..you will have coverage but not as much as if administered correctly.

Some vets do 2 seperate injections..one into base of ear, or layer of skin somewhere on body..then rest as a normal jab..
There can be a problem with injecting into skin on ear and I have seen most of fluid run back out..so not sure how effective this is if vet is inexperienced:?

Some will use one needle..inject most of fluid then pull needle out as far as skin layer and inject the rest..this is harder to get right..and also harder to see if vet is doing the right way.

You have every right to ask your vet how they administer it and if they do not give 10% into skin them ask them why and take buns elsewhere:D

and as already said you can ask for the 10% to be redone if neccessary

IzzyTwig
08-03-2008, 12:43 PM
My buns had it in the scruff but then the needle was pulled out nearly the whole way and the last 10% given into the skin in the scruff.

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 12:45 PM
:wave: Thanks Sooz and Jill :D I was sure they hadnt stopped doing it that way :D He definetly didnt do it so I will ask to speak to a more experienced vet Monday and arrange bringing my little buns back for their 10%. Ive no idea why my usual vet isnt there at the moment, I will ask that too so I can ask him to have a word with this vet I saw about the vaccinations because he

My usual vet who I do trust used the one needle and assured me he would get the 10% right and I do trust him with my buns 100%, ive just had trouble finding a replacement vet who I trust in his absence :(

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 12:45 PM
My buns had it in the scruff but then the needle was pulled out nearly the whole way and the last 10% given into the skin in the scruff.

Yes this is how the vet I usual see administers the vaccination :D

Sooz
08-03-2008, 12:47 PM
Mine does the 10% first and then puts the needle right into the scruff.

Make sure they dont charge you for the 10%.

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 12:50 PM
Im sure my usual vet wont charge for the 10% once I get there but I will have to pay for another appointment with them now :roll:

Sooz
08-03-2008, 12:52 PM
Im sure my usual vet wont charge for the 10% once I get there but I will have to pay for another appointment with them now :roll:

They shouldn't charge for that either, kick up merry hell with them....in the waiting room if you have to ;)

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 01:28 PM
They shouldn't charge for that either, kick up merry hell with them....in the waiting room if you have to ;)

Ive done that before with no luck :shock: I took my little Reuben rat in when he was sick and all the vet said was ummm I dunno whats wrong but he doesnt look right does he :roll: And gave me the name of another vet to make an appointment with then charged me 20 for it :shock: Then they charged when I went back to see the other vet too :roll: I made a right fuss but it didnt work :oops:

bunlover
08-03-2008, 01:36 PM
Yes can anyone tell us if our rabbits are still protected if the injection was given in the scruff of the neck only??????

some vets do all of injection in scruff but pull out either at start or end a little so that the 10% goes in the skin layer so it is same as ear/scruff but i would speak to your vet this is what mine does(scruff only) but she explained it was the same and she thought it was less painful and easier.

The Duchess
08-03-2008, 01:42 PM
I don't believe that you should be paying anything to have this done again, certainly not for an appointment.

If you don't get anywhere I think you should suggest to them that you will be contacting the RCVS (Are Channel Island vets trained/registered by them? Or if not their own governing body). I think that they would have to reconsider their position. A complaint to the RCVS is very serious indeed - the vet should have done it correctly in the first place and certainly should not be telling you something that isn't the truth (my opinion only of course).

Good luck.

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 01:46 PM
I don't believe that you should be paying anything to have this done again, certainly not for an appointment.

If you don't get anywhere I think you should suggest to them that you will be contacting the RCVS (Are Channel Island vets trained/registered by them? Or if not their own governing body). I think that they would have to reconsider their position. A complaint to the RCVS is very serious indeed - the vet should have done it correctly in the first place and certainly should not be telling you something that isn't the truth (my opinion only of course).

Good luck.

Thanks I will definetly mention that :D I wasnt aware I could complain to anyone other than the practise itself which I have done before x

The Duchess
08-03-2008, 01:59 PM
Thanks I will definetly mention that :D I wasnt aware I could complain to anyone other than the practise itself which I have done before x

It is a very serious matter when a complaint goes in to the RCVS so I would only use this as a last resort as it probably won't do a lot for your relationship with this vet practice. Hopefully just mentioning the possibility should get you the reaction you want. I would say also that you should only say it if you are prepared to complain if you don't get the desired result.

Hopefully it won't come to that! :)

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 02:05 PM
It is a very serious matter when a complaint goes in to the RCVS so I would only use this as a last resort as it probably won't do a lot for your relationship with this vet practice. Hopefully just mentioning the possibility should get you the reaction you want. I would say also that you should only say it if you are prepared to complain if you don't get the desired result.

Hopefully it won't come to that! :)

Thanks, I dont have a good relationship with them anyways after the complain I made when Scarlett was spayed :roll: :lol: After taking Reuben to the vet last time my usual rat vet actually complained for me about the way I was treated by a recepionist there :shock:

I think I am going to try another practice, there isnt that much choice here but I have been told of one that is very good with rats so I am going to give them a call and see if I can speak to a vet and ask some bunny questions :D

The Duchess
08-03-2008, 02:13 PM
That sounds like a plan. I always think that we as customers should vote with our feet. If you do decide to leave this practice, I would certainly tell them why otherwise they won't know any different and will probably continue to treat others in the same way.

Hope that this has all happened for a positive reason and that your new practice is exactly right for your and your furries.

Helen

sillyrabbit
08-03-2008, 02:16 PM
That sounds like a plan. I always think that we as customers should vote with our feet. If you do decide to leave this practice, I would certainly tell them why otherwise they won't know any different and will probably continue to treat others in the same way.

Hope that this has all happened for a positive reason and that your new practice is exactly right for your and your furries.

Helen

Thank you hun :D x

maisydaisystar
10-03-2008, 11:35 AM
I have emailed my vet to query Tillys protection, as she was only given it in the scruff.

This is the reply I had this morning.

Dear Paula,

You have no concerns as infact 10% of the injection is required to go into the dermis (Skin) which we do as we withdraw the needle. Many practices have diffentent policies on how this should be done and we have found this to be the most comfortable and least distressing for the rabbit.

I hope this has put your mind at rest,

sillyrabbit
10-03-2008, 07:44 PM
I asked tonight and I am popping Trip and Scarlett back for their 10% when we take Hunter in next week, he said dont mention it to the receptionists just bring them in and he will do it :D

Also just have to tell you all this, Beau was perfect at the vets :love: As the vet was checking him over he lay down all streched out waiting for a massage :shock: :lol: