6 babies!

[hunnybun]

One of the buns in the rescue ( Millie) has a nest of 6 babies this morning! she came into the rescue with a 6 month old male ( who was re homed this weekend) so no surprise really!
(I separated them within 5 mins of them arriving) I have another girl who has 2 x 4 week olds and I was told she was pregnant again when she came to the rescue last week! so more babies soon :shock: will post photos as they are growing :D

[Kirsty&Lola]

:shock:crikey, you've got your hands full then. they are lucky to be in such a good place and be well cared for. hope the babies do really well:D

[Indiechic]

good luck with the babies x

[hunnybun]

some pics

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/kareen.mitchelson/MilliesBabies

[buddabun]

awwww they look like my baby rats when they were born - all pink and see through :love:

please do keep us updated!!! I would love top watch them grow into fluffy little cuties!!!

[sally1974]

I took on a rabbit over a year ago who turned out to be pregnant she had 6 babies and was a fantastic mother, it was amazing watching them grow, they were all so different. Good luck with everything:D
Sallyx

[hunnybun]

One new photo on the picasa link taken today of the babies and some of Mummy too, they are starting to grow downy hair already :D

http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/kareen.mitchelson/MilliesBabies

all healthy and warm and wriggly :D

[Teepee]

Thank you for those photos hunnybun, it would be lovely if you could supply more as they grow. Although I would never want any of my very own (only 2 rabbits for me please!) they are very sweet!:D

Did you know that she was pregnant or did you just "suspect that may be so"?

All the best with them,

TP;)

[hunnybun]

Thank you for those photos hunnybun, it would be lovely if you could supply more as they grow. Although I would never want any of my very own (only 2 rabbits for me please!) they are very sweet!:D

Did you know that she was pregnant or did you just "suspect that may be so"?

All the best with them,

TP;)


Yes I will be taking photos every few days so keep an eye on that link :) the same link is on the home page of my website ;) I only suspected she was pregnant! she arrived at the rescue with a 6 month old male so chances were quite hight though!! I have another girl who has 4 babies at nearly 5 weeks old, and the previous owners said she will be pregnant again so more babies soon maybe! :shock: and I have some 10 week olds arriving soon too! :shock:

[Teepee]

Oh my goodness! - You're like a "bunny maternity ward"!:shock: I do not envy the amount of work it must be to care for so many!

GOOD! I am pleased that I will be able to "watch them grow" - bless them too!
Thanking you muchly!:)

Dear me, it must make your heart sink every time your suspicion proves to be true:( All the very best with your "little pinkies" and your other little ones...I await to see what colours that "downy hair" turns out to be.

TP;)

[blueboy]

Without sounding nasty, it seems to me that more and more rabbits are having litters in rescues these days. This would be ok if rescues didn’t complain at breeders so much. I have a problem with rescue rabbits having babies because it just fills up rescues more quickly, the breeded pair are not carefully selected rabbits (as a breeder would) so that means all kinds of genetic weaknesses, and its more pressure on people to rescue. I know it’s not “always” the rescues fault but it just makes them look like they are contradicting themselves when they look happy about it.

...again no offence I just felt like I had to say that.

[Teepee]

You weren't being nasty blueboy, although I'm not too sure what you mean by being "happy" - I'm thinking it is more about "making best of a bad situation" to be fair. Nobody was suggesting these rabbits should have been bred at all - just that the rabbits themselves were cute (that was me!;)) and now they're born I would like to watch them grow as I am not a breeder and would be interested in their development.

You make a very valid point in what you say: genetic weaknesses and such could indeed occur from such circumstances and people who know nothing about breeding ought not breed - I agree with you 100%

It wasn't the rescue that bred them though - they just got dumped with the result of somebody else's ignorance...though they be cute.

No offence taken! TP;)

[Leanne]

Without sounding nasty, it seems to me that more and more rabbits are having litters in rescues these days. This would be ok if rescues didn’t complain at breeders so much. I have a problem with rescue rabbits having babies because it just fills up rescues more quickly, the breeded pair are not carefully selected rabbits (as a breeder would) so that means all kinds of genetic weaknesses, and its more pressure on people to rescue. I know it’s not “always” the rescues fault but it just makes them look like they are contradicting themselves when they look happy about it.

...again no offence I just felt like I had to say that.

Thats a ridiculous statement.
The rescues are picking up the pieces of breeders, backstreet or not.
No offence...but...How someone can possibly say a rescue is contradicting itself by taking in pregnant rabbits is utterly absurd.
The rescues are probably happy that mum and babies survived after the awful start to life :(

[applebed]

If they arrive pregnant, what's the rescuer meant to do? Turn them away or refuse to find the resulting kits adorable? (They really are!)

Ideally of course the pairing wouldn't happen in such an irresponsible way, (health problems etc.).

However, at least this way when the babies are rescued they are going to end up with caring "forever home" owners who are aware of the responsibilities involved in rabbit ownership; they'll be neutered when they're of age, and the cycle won't be perpetuated. Much better than the babies and mummy ending up on preloved or freeads :)

[blueboy]

Thats a ridiculous statement.
The rescues are picking up the pieces of breeders, backstreet or not.
No offence...but...How someone can possibly say a rescue is contradicting itself by taking in pregnant rabbits is utterly absurd.
The rescues are probably happy that mum and babies survived after the awful start to life :(


I really don’t think that the majority of these pregnant does are from “professional” breeders. No one is twisting the rescues arm to take on pregnant rabbits; there are people out there that know more about this then a rescue. I know rescues are just carrying out their daily duties by taking on these rabbits. But let’s face it, most shout at breeders who are doing things professionally when the chances are they have a doe ready to have a litter themselves. What’s the difference? I am just saying it looks like they are contradicting themselves. If rescues carry on having litters born then people will just go “the problem can’t be that serious then, Ill go to a pet shop or Ill go to a breeder”. That is just how it could look.

[Teepee]

I think you are very right blueboy, I think most of these does do not come from "professional" breeders but rather people who did not see fit to pay out and spay their does - I agree.

I think the difference is that though a rescue may very well have in their care a doe ready to have a litter they didn't breed it - they didn't willfully go out and add to the problem of too many rabbits without a home...

TP;)

[Leanne]

I really don’t think that the majority of these pregnant does are from “professional” breeders. No one is twisting the rescues arm to take on pregnant rabbits; there are people out there that know more about this then a rescue. I know rescues are just carrying out their daily duties by taking on these rabbits. But let’s face it, most shout at breeders who are doing things professionally when the chances are they have a doe ready to have a litter themselves. What’s the difference? I am just saying it looks like they are contradicting themselves. If rescues carry on having litters born then people will just go “the problem can’t be that serious then, Ill go to a pet shop or Ill go to a breeder”. That is just how it could look.

To most people it doesn't look like that at all. Anyone with half an ounce of common sense would realise that the rescues are just picking up the pieces of irresponsible or ignorant owners/breeders.
The difference is that the rescue did not mate a pair of rabbits. The breeder/owner did.
The rescues are not responsible for bringing more rabbits into this world.
Anyone that thinks the problem can't be serious if rescues allow babies to be born are just as ignorant and would probably go to a petstore/breeder anyway with that attitude and lack of sense.
What do you suggest they do?
Turn them away?
Book them in for late terminations risking the life of the mother?
Its different if its an early pregnancy and an emergency spay is carried out but not all rescues can afford this and so they have no choice but to care for the doe and then have the responsibility of rehoming mum and the babies.

[Mandy]

I know it’s not “always” the rescues fault

Seeing as rescues have not bred the rabbit themselves then it can't ever be their 'fault' :D:D

Agree with Leanne :thumb:

[blueboy]

Yes I know what rescues are doing but what I am saying is that more and more rescues are indeed happy to have rabbits give birth to a litter these days on their premises. It almost looks like rescues want to take on the roll of a rescue and breeder to make sure things are done “correctly” (in their opinion). Yes a backyard breeder did mate the rabbits, or they where bred “accidentally” and YES it has been known that rescues do breed rabbits as well. Again chances are slim that a rescue would receive a pregnant doe from a professional breeder and that is why there are not many rare breeds in rescues. Well if you are having a dig at me for having lack of common sense (and it looks like you are) then you would be far far wrong, because I am actually on your side here. I am just stating the obvious.

I know of one rescue that actually works along side a breeder, and any pregnant dose that come in they hand the rabbit to the breeder to handle. There is a contract between the breeder and rescue that the breeder will not breed from the rabbits and they will be rehome as soon as they are old enough, neutered and vaccinated via the rescue. But like I said before, a true professional breeder doesn’t breed cross breeds anyway.

[XMissySJx]

i dont see how can say its not 'always' the rescues fault.

unless the rescue bred the bunny themselves....it is NEVER their fault! #(not that a rescue wud do that im just saying that wud be the only way blame could be brought)

The reason people seem 'happy'is because it is not the baby bunnies fault. They still deserve love! Its making the best out of a bad situation.

[Mandy]

I can't believe it's even being debated to be honest- how ridiculous! :shock: :lol::lol:

[hunnybun]

I am not sure that I can even get into this :evil: and yes I am offended!!!

No rabbits are ever bred here, if they come into the rescue pregnant I am not happy about it, but I am happy to see lovely healthy babies that may have otherwise been neglected or killed!! and they are all neutered before they go to a new home.

[hunnybun]

Without sounding nasty, it seems to me that more and more rabbits are having litters in rescues these days. This would be ok if rescues didn’t complain at breeders so much. I have a problem with rescue rabbits having babies because it just fills up rescues more quickly, the breeded pair are not carefully selected rabbits (as a breeder would) so that means all kinds of genetic weaknesses, and its more pressure on people to rescue. I know it’s not “always” the rescues fault but it just makes them look like they are contradicting themselves when they look happy about it.

...again no offence I just felt like I had to say that.


I don't recall ever complaining at you! :shock:

[joey&bugys 2007]

I am not sure that I can even get into this :evil: and yes I am offended!!!

No rabbits are ever bred here, if they come into the rescue pregnant I am not happy about it, but I am happy to see lovely healthy babies that may have otherwise been neglected or killed!! and they are all neutered before they go to a new home.

I would personally just ignore ignorant people because all you rescue do an amazing job. The babies are lovely and I hope you find lovely forever homes for them.

[animus]

Blueboy, are you just a troll from another forum come here to cause trouble?

[chloaster]

Does seem somewhat of an odd conclusion to come to :? As a rescue I personally don't like having babies come in. Healthy adult buns can be wormed, neutered and myxi'd within the space of a month and hopefully found a new home so another rabbit can be helped. Babies are cute yes, but they take up space for up to 6months, need to be seperated sometimes so another rescue space is lost and to be honest are very time consuming and demanding :?

If a doe comes in and the vet knows she is pregnant then she is definately too far gone to be spayed as it is too much of a risk, but I have had to make the horrible decision to abort two week old babies and this is not a decision I enjoy making but the result of other peoples lack of thought and concideration.

[Teepee]

I *think* the point blueboy was making (though I am obviously not blueboy so am only guessing) that in an "ideal" world no rabbit would be bred unless it was by somebody who knew about rabbit genetics (and I tried reading up on that regarding BEW - VERY complicated stuff!:lol:) and could therefore produce rabbits that were less likely to suffer any genetic weakness. If this was the case then obviously the only rabbits left on the market in time would be such rabbits, and this would get rid of the problem of re-homing those from people who haven't the first clue about genetics. I take this point and agree but unfortunately this is a million miles away from being an "ideal" world and as such the problem rescues face daily remains...

I'm not too sure about the "blame" factor however :? - thinking that needs to be re-directed towards people who currently breed rabbits without knowledge or a care in the world about the problem of re-homing them...

That's what I took from this thread any-ho!

TP;)

[hunnybun]

I really don’t think that the majority of these pregnant does are from “professional” breeders. No one is twisting the rescues arm to take on pregnant rabbits; there are people out there that know more about this then a rescue. I know rescues are just carrying out their daily duties by taking on these rabbits. But let’s face it, most shout at breeders who are doing things professionally when the chances are they have a doe ready to have a litter themselves. What’s the difference? I am just saying it looks like they are contradicting themselves. If rescues carry on having litters born then people will just go “the problem can’t be that serious then, Ill go to a pet shop or Ill go to a breeder”. That is just how it could look.

As far as I am concerned, I am happy to take in a pregnant doe as I know that I will have them neutered as soon as they are old enough, where as if I don't take them then the babies will soon be pregnant too!! I am taking in 4 11 weeks old ones soon just for that very reason!! so how am I not helping?

[blueboy]

Blueboy, are you just a troll from another forum come here to cause trouble?


No.
I am only a member to this forum.

[hunnybun]

I would personally just ignore ignorant people because all you rescue do an amazing job. The babies are lovely and I hope you find lovely forever homes for them.


Thanks Tracey x:D

[Leanne]

Yes I know what rescues are doing but what I am saying is that more and more rescues are indeed happy to have rabbits give birth to a litter these days on their premises. It almost looks like rescues want to take on the roll of a rescue and breeder to make sure things are done “correctly” (in their opinion). Yes a backyard breeder did mate the rabbits, or they where bred “accidentally” and YES it has been known that rescues do breed rabbits as well. Again chances are slim that a rescue would receive a pregnant doe from a professional breeder and that is why there are not many rare breeds in rescues. Well if you are having a dig at me for having lack of common sense (and it looks like you are) then you would be far far wrong, because I am actually on your side here. I am just stating the obvious.

I know of one rescue that actually works along side a breeder, and any pregnant dose that come in they hand the rabbit to the breeder to handle. There is a contract between the breeder and rescue that the breeder will not breed from the rabbits and they will be rehome as soon as they are old enough, neutered and vaccinated via the rescue. But like I said before, a true professional breeder doesn’t breed cross breeds anyway.


Im not saying you aren't on the rescues side, but I am saying that you are in the minority with this view, and yes I do think you must be a tad ignorant or lacking in common sense to think this of rescues and most of the general publics view on decent rescues work.
Its an insult to all the rescues that work tirelessly hard and for no reward to say what you have said.
You and I have had debates before and we just go round in circles so im going to leave it here.

[Pipstrel]

Yes I know what rescues are doing but what I am saying is that more and more rescues are indeed happy to have rabbits give birth to a litter these days on their premises. It almost looks like rescues want to take on the roll of a rescue and breeder to make sure things are done “correctly” (in their opinion). Yes a backyard breeder did mate the rabbits, or they where bred “accidentally” and YES it has been known that rescues do breed rabbits as well. Again chances are slim that a rescue would receive a pregnant doe from a professional breeder and that is why there are not many rare breeds in rescues. Well if you are having a dig at me for having lack of common sense (and it looks like you are) then you would be far far wrong, because I am actually on your side here. I am just stating the obvious.

I know of one rescue that actually works along side a breeder, and any pregnant dose that come in they hand the rabbit to the breeder to handle. There is a contract between the breeder and rescue that the breeder will not breed from the rabbits and they will be rehome as soon as they are old enough, neutered and vaccinated via the rescue. But like I said before, a true professional breeder doesn’t breed cross breeds anyway.

Sorry but are you having a laugh and just trying to annoy people because if you are its really not funny. And the 'rescue' you mention above doesn't sound like a rescue to me.

All the rescues on here work incredibly hard and do not need ignorant people like you with you obnoxious views.

[animus]

No.
I am only a member to this forum.

So why does your homepage say another forum? One that has caused trouble in the past?

[sally1974]

If it wasn't for the rescue's picking up the pieces these poor pregnant rabbits could just be dumped anywhere. I honestly cannot believe you said what you did, like Mandy said it's ridiculous. Who do you think pays for these pregnant rabbits to be neutered/spayed once they have had their babies? Let me tell you it isn't the breeder but the rescue.
Sallyx

[blueboy]

I am NOT blaming rescues! For goodness sakes! Weather I am in a minority view or not that doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion without half of the forum around my neck! I am just saying that too many rescues are having litters born and yet they are happy to shout at breeders. Ok a rescue will not MATE the rabbits but that is just a tiny part of “breeding”. Rescues happy to take on a pregnant doe are actually contributing to breeding weather they like it or not. I thought rescues wanted to help sort a problem out, but it seems to me that they rather insult people and bury their heads in the sand.
[admin edit - no need for personal attacks]

[Jeremy]

Rescues happy to take on a pregnant doe are actually contributing to breeding weather they like it or not.
What would you suggest they do with them?

[Bavarian Bunny]

Would you prefer it if the rescues killed the babies once they are born? Quite often you don't even know if a doe comes in pregnant until she builds a nest. We've had several cases of backyard breeders and people where things had gone out of control, where bunnies were in such a bad state that they had to be removed quickly. Of course there was the chance that some of them were pregnant. And when you remove rabbits from horrible conditions, they are not fit to be neutered straight away, it would be too much stress for them. More stress than if they gave birth. Quite a few kill their own babies if they are not well, which is sad, but the ones that have healthy babies, do need our help.

[blueboy]

So why does your homepage say another forum? One that has caused trouble in the past?

That is a friends forum which I cannot join.

Sorry but are you having a laugh and just trying to annoy people because if you are its really not funny. And the 'rescue' you mention above doesn't sound like a rescue to me.

All the rescues on here work incredibly hard and do not need ignorant people like you with you obnoxious views.

I am far from having a laugh, I am being deadly serious. I never said rescues do not work hard but they are having problems and is why some are using other alternatives. I think it’s a great idea!

I don't know Jeremy I don't have all the answers. I have said what a rescue has set up that I know of but people think I am having a laugh. All I am saying is that it may not "look" good. Some people running rescues seem "over joyed" about having baby rabbits on the way. Mixed messages are given. From what I have learnt on this forum surely this isn’t a good thing. That is what I am trying to say. I do not deserve to be attacked here.

[Teepee]

I would suggest that mating the rabbits is slightly more than a "tiny" part of the breeding process blueboy...;)

I do see your point with regards to litters being born that add to the problem I really do - but this problem needs to be addressed by the owners of does rather than the rescues as, by the time the doe hits them, they are already pregnant. Short of refusing them entry (which would not rectify the problem of the pregnant doe or babies sure to follow) they have little choice but to allow does to give birth on their premises...All a rescue can do is to neuter/spay the babies and Mum after birth to prevent any more unwanted babies...

TP;)

[Phill]

That is a friends forum which I cannot join.



I am far from having a laugh, I am being deadly serious. I never said rescues do not work hard but they are having problems and is why some are using other alternatives. I think it’s a great idea!

I don't know Jeremy I don't have all the answers. I have said what a rescue has set up that I know of but people think I am having a laugh. All I am saying is that it may not "look" good. Some people running rescues seem "over joyed" about having baby rabbits on the way. Mixed messages are given. From what I have learnt on this forum surely this isn’t a good thing. That is what I am trying to say. I do not deserve to be attacked here.

If you don't agree with most of the people's opinions on this thread why don't you stay off it? Others may agree with you that rescues being happy about having litters is counter productive but what is the rescue meant to do? not tell people on of there rescues has had babies and kill them? not take in the unwanted bun because it's pregnant? Are you seriously saying that if you had a rabbit that had babys you wouldn't ooh and arr along with everyone else?
Yes we all know breeding done badly is not good, backyard breeding should be stopped. But how on earth do you expect a rescue to not take in a rabbit in any shape or state? Why shouldn't they ooh and arr and show others what babys look like and how they grow. At least the babys will be neutered and found homes by the rescue rather than being sold or given away to anyone via a pet shop or free ads.

[Mandy]

a rescue will not MATE the rabbits but that is just a tiny part of “breeding”.

Mating = Breeding ;)

The deed is done once they reach the rescue and nothing can change that apart from spaying, and that cannot be done too late in a pregnancy. Perhaps rescues should take your version of the moral high ground and turn away all pregnant bunns to god knows what kind of life :rolleyes:

[Denny]

The problem is, different people can interpret a post in completely different ways.

To me, no breeders were mentioned in kareen's post and it just seems an irresponsible pet owner on both account to me where these babies are concerned and that she (Kareen) is happy that both mom and babies are doing fine, not that she is happy that she has litters being born at her rescue:lol:

Many byb do contact rescues for their help, I did a bunnyrun for one but at the end of the day, it is upto the rescue whom they decide to help regarding the breeders, its not really our place as pet owners to say who they should be helping for not really:lol:

[animus]

That is a friends forum which I cannot join.


Yeah, that's believable :roll:
There's no reason you wouldn't be able to join an open forum unless the forum admin (who I'm sure you know very well) had a personal problem with you and since she's your 'friend', that is clearly not the case

[blueboy]

Yeah, that's believable :roll:
There's no reason you wouldn't be able to join an open forum unless the forum admin (who I'm sure you know very well) had a personal problem with you and since she's your 'friend', that is clearly not the case

Yes I know her because she is a friend...as I have already said. I can't join the forum because it keeps booting me off when I am registering.



I have said my bit and I am not going to keep going over it again and again.
Just stop shouting at breeders if you’re going to help them out. There are some rescues that do in fact breed the rabbits, we all know that.

[clutterydrawer]

There are some rescues that do in fact breed the rabbits, we all know that.

The fact that unscrupulous people exist who will call themselves rescues but conduct themselves like breeders does not nullify the good work that genuine rescues do.

[joey&bugys 2007]

Yes I know her because she is a friend...as I have already said. I can't join the forum because it keeps booting me off when I am registering.



I have said my bit and I am not going to keep going over it again and again.
Just stop shouting at breeders if you’re going to help them out. There are some rescues that do in fact breed the rabbits, we all know that.

Well none of the rescue's on here do! As people keep saying what do you expect them to do with the babies just let them die? They all care too much about them to do that. And because they do clear up after bad breeders, i personally think they should have the right to moan about them!

[XMissySJx]

Yes I know her because she is a friend...as I have already said. I can't join the forum because it keeps booting me off when I am registering.



I have said my bit and I am not going to keep going over it again and again.
Just stop shouting at breeders if you’re going to help them out. There are some rescues that do in fact breed the rabbits, we all know that.

ive only got one thing to say.

Its not about helping the BREEDERS out. its about helping the RABBITS themselves.



Anyone can call themselves a rescue, but no decent reputable rescue breeds as they see to much horrific neglect and sadness to even contemplate it. I dont know your name who originally posted this...but well done for helping these babies :):):):):)

[babybunnies3]

Yes I know her because she is a friend...as I have already said. I can't join the forum because it keeps booting me off when I am registering.



I have said my bit and I am not going to keep going over it again and again.
Just stop shouting at breeders if you’re going to help them out. There are some rescues that do in fact breed the rabbits, we all know that.


You don't seem to understand what people are saying so I'll make it simple:

Rescues aren't helping out breeders, they are cleaning up their ****.

Or do you think they (mother and babies or just babies) should be killed to stop "advertising" breeding rabbits?! :roll:

[Teepee]

Blueboy,

I think that there is a marked difference in "allowing a doe to give birth in a safe environment" and "allowing a doe to get pregnant in the first place" - rescues do the former.;)

Any "rescue" who breed rabbits are less a "rescue" and more "people out to make money from breeding who ought not be calling themselves a rescue at all".:(

I take your point that SOME people may think to themselves "No worries if my doe becomes pregnant as I can always dump her at a rescue" when rescues accept pregnant does - but this is a "catch 22" situation where the rescue has no choice if it wishes to prevent that doe having further litters. Also, SHOULD rescues adopt the "No pregnant does" approach then said :censored: person is less likely to think: "I will have my doe spayed as no rescue will have her if she becomes pregnant" and much more likely to think: "No worries if my doe becomes pregnant as I can always sell her babies through the freeads"...Such is the freedom in this country to obtain animals on a whim.

TP;)

[Wabbit]

I am NOT blaming rescues! For goodness sakes! Weather I am in a minority view or not that doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion without half of the forum around my neck! I am just saying that too many rescues are having litters born and yet they are happy to shout at breeders. Ok a rescue will not MATE the rabbits but that is just a tiny part of “breeding”. Rescues happy to take on a pregnant doe are actually contributing to breeding weather they like it or not. I thought rescues wanted to help sort a problem out, but it seems to me that they rather insult people and bury their heads in the sand.


Emma

How on earth can you criticise rescues for taking in unwanted pregnant does, when you have recently purchased a rabbit from Pets at Home???

Words fail me :?

Jenny

[Lucy]

I can see a slight point in that if a rescue can still do an emergency spay that would preferable to allowing the pregnancy to go through, but that is the only point I can see here.

If I know a female rabbit has been with an unneutered male, i will get an emergency spay done straight away just in case. Sometimes that can't be done because they are too far on with the pregnancy.

I agree that babies are time consuming and harder to home than adults. I dislike rehoming babies due to the neutering issues. At least over 6 months thats not a worry. I certainly wouldn't be looking to take in babies or pregnant does just to satisfy some sort of maternal instinct :lol:

[hunnybun]

I am NOT blaming rescues! For goodness sakes! Weather I am in a minority view or not that doesn’t mean I can’t have an opinion without half of the forum around my neck! I am just saying that too many rescues are having litters born and yet they are happy to shout at breeders. Ok a rescue will not MATE the rabbits but that is just a tiny part of “breeding”. Rescues happy to take on a pregnant doe are actually contributing to breeding weather they like it or not. I thought rescues wanted to help sort a problem out, but it seems to me that they rather insult people and bury their heads in the sand.
[admin edit - no need for personal attacks]

WE are not burying our heads in the sand! My God where do you get that from :shock: Rescues are not *having* litters they arrive that way, and sometimes we don't know they are pregnant! we are NOT breeding, you argument is so ridiculous :censored:

[hunnybun]

ive only got one thing to say.

Its not about helping the BREEDERS out. its about helping the RABBITS themselves.



Anyone can call themselves a rescue, but no decent reputable rescue breeds as they see to much horrific neglect and sadness to even contemplate it. I dont know your name who originally posted this...but well done for helping these babies :):):):):)

It is me and my name is Kareen :wave:

[nursecroft]

Kareen well done for giving millie a safe environment to have her babies, they are beautiful :)

[Mandy]

Kareen well done for giving millie a safe environment to have her babies, they are beautiful :)

I second that, well done :thumb:

[Teepee]

Me three!:D

...and I look forward to watching them grow.

TP;)

[hunnybun]

I will be photographing them every couple of days so keep an eye out for new pics ;)

[hunnybun]

Just to update on this litter, :D they were all neutered and fully vaccinated.

After one of the girls was spayed she developed an abscess on the operation site, ( she has multiple small abscesses when she was very young! and her Mum had two large ones on her back while she was pregnant!) after trying everything including an operation to remove the abscess which failed we had to put her to sleep.
After rehoming one of boys became ill, it turned out to be peritonitis :cry: and he was pts :cry: his partner is now bonded with another rabbit :D

The others are all in their new homes and doing very well.

photos of all the baby buns are on the picasa link Below in the Millie's babies folder :D Millie was neutered and bonded with a male who came to the rescue to meet her she is very settled in her new home

I still have a litter of 6 and a litter of 5! the litter of 5 are all reserved. and 2 of the litter of 6 are reserved. :D

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