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Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 08:44 AM
Has the normal Excel food recipe changed from a few years ago? I moved Evo from Excel to SS as the Excel was giving him excess caecotrophs (sp?), but he's not very keen on the "new" SS recipe, so I was thinking about moving him back to the Excel. I was thinking of moving him to the Excel light, but if the standard Excel has changed, then that might be better as he doesn't need to lose weight.

What other alternatives are there? It needs to be something that's easy to get hold of, preferably in a shop rather than online.

joey&bugys 2007
16-10-2007, 09:09 AM
I use Excel and my bunnies don't have a problem. Before Bugys went to the rescue to get bonded with Joey we was trying to change her from museli to excel. My vet's recommend excel lite and she just would not eat it! When we got her back from rescue she loved her excel! The rescue said its because excel lite isn't as tasty but normal excel was fine as she is the right weight and they would only put overweight bunnies on it.
However i'm not sure if its changed?! So not much help really! :lol:

TheGaffer
16-10-2007, 09:19 AM
I don't think Excel have increased the fibre content of their food.

Do you have a horse feed supplier near you where you could get hold of some A&P?

Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 09:38 AM
Do you have a horse feed supplier near you where you could get hold of some A&P?

I'm not sure to be honest, you'd think so with me living in oo-arrr Devon..... will have to look into it, as tbh I'd rather not put him on Excel.

BirdieBun
16-10-2007, 09:52 AM
I know there was a huge yard thing hun as we left the place I visited in Devon by you, omfg I forget the name of the place already :shock: :lol: :lol:

Surely you could find a stockist hun of A&P but I bet Evo wont liek it for a while cos when I changed my buns from SS to A&P they were not impressed lol! :thumb:

Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 09:57 AM
What is te A&P one actually called? I can only see the Herbs and Fibre on their website.

BirdieBun
16-10-2007, 10:10 AM
Erm just Allen & Page in a brown sack :D

Neil-and-Maria
16-10-2007, 10:17 AM
Where do you normally buy from? Why not see if they can get you samples of different foods they can supply? Our local supply shop gave us 40p of g.pig food just to try as we weren't sure they would adapt to it rather than a whole bag.

Maria x

Leanne
16-10-2007, 11:00 AM
Double post!

Leanne
16-10-2007, 11:00 AM
I never had any probs with any of my my buns on Excel (used it for years and years) but I only gave it as a treat so literally a sprinkling a day.

I did change to Oxbows Bunny Basics T though as I felt it a better composition. My two new buns are doing fantastic on it, they too only have a sprinkling at night.
You can get any vet surgery to order it in for you and some pet shops sell it :D

Doncat5
16-10-2007, 11:20 AM
What is te A&P one actually called? I can only see the Herbs and Fibre on their website.


Allen and Page Natural Pellets...... but why dont they make smaller sacks!

Sooz
16-10-2007, 11:39 AM
There is a website that repackages and sells smaller bags....If anyone knows what site it is can you let me know please????

I have moved Caspian onto A&P for his gut problems as its very high fiber and he adores it but a whole sack would last him a lifetime and the others love SS.

SarahP
16-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Someone on here (AlisonA I think) was saying that Excel has increased its fibre content and it's about 1% under SS. :? Don't quote me though - could be wrong!

Rabbers
16-10-2007, 02:00 PM
The Lite excel is 18% fibre so just below SS. I personally think this would be better than the regular excel - if you find excel easy to get hold of, I'd buy the lite version.

Rabbers
16-10-2007, 02:01 PM
I meant to say that the website doesn't mention a recipe change for excel and fibre of the regular one is only 16% still.

Also I meant to say it's Bunnymail that do the repackaged A and P.

Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 02:04 PM
Are they the ones here (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/hamptonrabbits/page5.html)? Bunnymail are out of stock at the moment.

Rabbers
16-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Are they the ones here (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/hamptonrabbits/page5.html)? Bunnymail are out of stock at the moment.

They're the breeder ones, you want the Natural Pellets, just for adults. I think they're in a browner bag.

BirdieBun
16-10-2007, 02:09 PM
Are they the ones here (http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/hamptonrabbits/page5.html)? Bunnymail are out of stock at the moment.


I believe they are the breeders pellets its the brown sack you need ;)

Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Okaaaaay.......... where sells the big sacks of A&P online? I can't find anything on their website, so even if I did get a local place to order it for me, I wouldn't know what to ask for. :lol:

Buggie Jay
16-10-2007, 02:45 PM
I use Excel myself, but had a barney one day when I found the pellets stuck together moldy in large clumps in the unopened bag... not good!

But that was an isolated case.

BirdieBun
16-10-2007, 02:49 PM
Why dont you ring the place we get ours from and see if they can recommend anythign as you live in Devon? :D

Missy
16-10-2007, 02:58 PM
There is a website that repackages and sells smaller bags....If anyone knows what site it is can you let me know please????

I have moved Caspian onto A&P for his gut problems as its very high fiber and he adores it but a whole sack would last him a lifetime and the others love SS.


Just wondered if you get a use by date on the ones that have been re-packaged?

I used to use A & P but the Use By dates are quite short approx 3 - 4 months, I emailed Allan & Page and they didn't recomend using it for much longer than the sell by date as the vitamin content will have deteriorated.

I can't imagine them selling a full sacks worth in the few months and then the owner using them all up in the time period. I may be wrong though. :?

Thea & Bobbin
16-10-2007, 03:07 PM
I am currently having a few issues at the moment myself. I'm trying to move Bobbin from Excel Junior to SS. He seemed to like the SS at first, but now he eats all the Excel and leaves the SS till he's really hugry :roll:

Obviously he doesn't hate it otherwise he wouldn't eat it at all, but I'd much prefer him to really enjoy his pellets :? Also the SS pellets are so big that he has to bite bits of at a time where as he could just gobble up the excel. Are there any other brands that have a high fibre content in a smaller pellet? What size are the normal excel pellets?

(My reason for changing is excess poops)

Don't mean to steal your post Rallybunny! :oops: ;)

Vanessa.B
16-10-2007, 05:34 PM
I had probs with both Excel and SS and excess poops. We are now using Oxbow T with no probs - pellets are small enough for mini buns. They are pricey but do last along time. Bunny Basics also do a high fibre pellet but my buns were not keen on these (tho they were on Excel at the time).
Hope this helps. :wave:

Rallybunny
16-10-2007, 07:10 PM
I had probs with both Excel and SS and excess poops. We are now using Oxbow T with no probs - pellets are small enough for mini buns. They are pricey but do last along time. Bunny Basics also do a high fibre pellet but my buns were not keen on these (tho they were on Excel at the time).
Hope this helps. :wave:

Carys is going to send me a bit of A&P for Evo to try, but if not, I think I will try the Oxbow, as my vets get all my Oxbow hay for me, I don't see why they won't be able to order the pellets too.