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Jenk
30-09-2007, 01:29 AM
Does anyone here have working knowledge of giving when Simethicone can and cannot be given? I'd like to know if it's possible to give Simethicone for gas build-up, even if it's due to mucoid enteritis? Or should Simethicone not be given in the case of mucoid enteritis because it can cause an even greater (bacterial) imbalance in the intestines?

My bunny, Zoe, (far as we know) has mucoid enteritis. Right now, she's feeling more bloated (again), which could possibly be from pellets and her body not digesting them properly. (I've cut out her pellets just over 24 hours ago and want to keep her comfy--and eating--until she can get back to the vet.)

Sooz
30-09-2007, 01:35 AM
From what I have been told Simethicone (Infacol) is a very stable and safe medication which can be given in conjunction with any other medication.

I have been using a dose of 0.5mls every four hours on Caspian who has a gas build-up along with stomach rubs. It has no anti-biotic properties that I know of so should not affect the stomach flora, I believe it works by breaking down the gas.

I am going to try Caspian with some stomach acid stabiliser if he is still gurgling tomorrow in conjunction with the Infacol....like your bunny he is well in himself and showing no signs of pain.

Jenk
30-09-2007, 02:05 AM
I forgot to ask:

1) How much Simethicone can/should be given to a young (10-week-old) bun? (I bought the baby formula, which is 20 mg. Need it be diluted?)

2) I could only find baby formulas with a good number of inactive ingredients besides the Simethicone. Is this okay? (If there's a 100% Simethicone version available (in the U.S.)--though I doubt it--I'm all ears.)


Thanks,

Sooz
30-09-2007, 02:15 AM
0.5mls every four hours and with food.

UK Infacol contains:

Simeticone (new name for simethicone) 40mg/ml anti-flatulant

Inactive Ingrediants:
Saccharin Sodium (sweetner)
Hypromellose
Orange flavouring
Methy Hydroxybenzoate (E218)
Propyl Hydroxybenzoate (E216)
Purified water

Some useful information from the leaflet:

You should use this product for several days to achieve best results as treatment with infacol shows progressive effects.

Simeticone in Infacol is inert. It is not absorbed into the body. It causes no known side-effects. An overdose is highly unlikely to cause any harm.

Jenk
30-09-2007, 02:47 AM
0.5mls every four hours and with food.

UK Infacol contains:

Simeticone (new name for simethicone) 40mg/ml anti-flatulant

Inactive Ingrediants:
Saccharin Sodium (sweetner)
Hypromellose
Orange flavouring
Methy Hydroxybenzoate (E218)
Propyl Hydroxybenzoate (E216)
Purified water

Some useful information from the leaflet:

You should use this product for several days to achieve best results as treatment with infacol shows progressive effects.

Simeticone in Infacol is inert. It is not absorbed into the body. It causes no known side-effects. An overdose is highly unlikely to cause any harm.

Your ingredients differ from mine. Being in the U.S., though, I didn't expect the same brands to be available. The one I bought doesn't contain fruit flavors or dyes, that much I remember (without grabbing the box just now). I'd assume that if it's designed for babies, though, it would still be okay for bunnies, yes?

I purposely bought a brand that doesn't contain sugar (at least I didn't recognize any forms of it on the label) because I understand that it can disrupt intestional flora even more. And with enteritis, Zoe doesn't need anymore woes than I may have already caused by feeding her pellets until recently. :(

SarahP
30-09-2007, 09:20 AM
I'm sure it'll be fine, since it seems a very safe substance.

Fairy13
30-09-2007, 10:26 AM
My vets had never heard of it when I gave it to Boots just last week as he wasn't eating in the morning and they couldn't see him til 5.15 that afternoon so I gave it to him along with a syringe feed. He was actually eating by the time the vet appt came round but needless to say we still took him to what had caused it.
Anyway, I'm rambling! What I meant to say was I actually used Simethicone or Infacol, as its marketed here, for my eldest daughter when she was a baby. I believe it works by making the tiny air bubbles, that cause gripey pain, together into one big bubble of air that can then be easily passed as a burb, most commonly in a baby's case, or out the other end!
So I guess that must be what it does for buns etc too. :?

Sorry I've rambled alot! :oops: